Monday, July 24, 2006

Let's roll the tape!

So, there's some question over whether I have represented Aaron's posts well, since of course you can't see them right now. Perhaps it would be useful for anyone with question to go check out, say, this one, for example. (if you particularly need the chart, it can be seen, for example, here.)

What've we got, here? Aaron's got a problem: there's an equal number of white men and women out at his nightspots but there's three times as many Latino men as whites. Why is that, he wonders? He comes up with three possibilities. One: that mostly men are coming here from Mexico - somehow he knows these guys are in fact Mexican immigrants - without their "wives/girlfriends in Mexico (whilst they do their damnedest to score with a white chick)," which is the kind of great insight into the moral character of Mexican immigrants only Aaron can give since he knows they've got steadies back home and that the reason they go out to places that play the music they know is, of course, to score with white chicks.

Two: the Latin women are somewhere else looking for white guys. Oh, if only they knew where Aaron is!

Three: maybe "the stereotypes were true. That latin men treat their women like crap and that the latin women are really here, they're just not allowed to go out."

So Our Hero thinks over these possibilities, and finds a graph showing that among Mexicans in Mexico, about a quarter of women ages 15-19 (an oddly high number) are not working or employed. And which of those three theories does that support? [Aside: actually, none, since legal marriage in Mexico is at age 18 -- these girls are being kept home by their parents. But, continuing....]

So, he concludes, "as much BS as I hear the brainwashed suburbanite women of the Twin Cities metro opine how latin men are so romantic, I can only shake my head in pitiful humor that they think barefoot and pregnant is romantic." [Aside #2: actually, it might be: for whatever reason "romantic" is tied in with traditional gender role notions, it's not the same concept as "hot" or "sexy."] Yep, girls, when you see those Latinos you should be thinkin', he wants me barefoot and preganant. One can only wonder why they prefer Latinos to Aaron, who certainly thinks women should be active outside the home instead of staying home with the kids - or maybe not.

So, let's hear from y'all as to why this isn't, y'know, racist speech.

And, let's puncture some crap Bayesian arguments that are going to come up right now.

Firstly, if someone tells you, say, that blacks commit crimes way disproportionately to whites in America, that's not racist, it's true. If he uses it to suggest why there might be hiring disparities or why you might need special policing or educational solutions or whatever, that's interesting. If on the other hand he uses it to mock you for not looking at blacks and thinking, "criminals" ... that's something else. And if it's not even blacks in general but the blacks who hang out at, say, this particular nightclub ....

Secondly, it's not even the right set of statistics (a common Aaron problem). This isn't about Latinos or even Mexican-Americans. It's about Mexicans in Mexico. All they have in common with the people he has been talking about is, that they are co-racialists.

Let's hear the defenses, eh? I welcome them.

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